let's hope we wet through the debt ceiling crisis, and then you'll see the private sector invest. if there's one thing this president is going to be known for, he is all over the social issues, guns and gay marriage and healthcare but has done nothing to help this economy. and when you look at what jack will you and rob neighbors and gene sprawling did in the summer of 2011, are you shock wed have had this anemic recovery? and we're not in a recovery. near a recession. >> one more quarter and we're in a technical recession as well. one more quarter of negative. let's talk about this for a little bit. so, what we really need is growth to come back into the economy. for me, ronald reagan, margaret thatcher, said let people keep more of their own money and then people invest in their businesses or invest in themselves go out to dinner, a movie. thatthat's economic growth. >> you're absolutely correct. and look, the numbers are clear. if we were growing at three to four, five%, which is not out of the realm of possibility, happened under ronald reagan -- we could grow our way out of t